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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
Cc: jack@suse.com, amir73il@gmail.com, djwong@kernel.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, dhowells@redhat.com, khazhy@google.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, repnop@google.com,
	kernel@collabora.com, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/28] file system-wide error monitoring
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:16:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211015091644.GA23102@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211014213646.1139469-1-krisman@collabora.com>

Hi!

On Thu 14-10-21 18:36:18, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote:
> This attempts to get the ball rolling again for the FAN_FS_ERROR.  This
> version is slightly different from the previous approaches, since it uses
> mempool for memory allocation, as suggested by Jan.  It has the
> advantage of simplifying a lot the enqueue/dequeue, which is now much
> more similar to other event types, but it also means the guarantee that
> an error event will be available is diminished.
> 
> The way we propagate superblock errors also changed. Now we use
> FILEID_ROOT internally, and mangle it prior to copy_to_user.
> 
> I am no longer sure how to guarantee that at least one mempoll slot will
> be available for each filesystem.  Since we are now tying the poll to
> the entire group, a stream of errors in a single file system might
> prevent others from emitting an error.  The possibility of this is
> reduced since we merge errors to the same filesystem, but it is still
> possible that they occur during the small window where the event is
> dequeued and before it is freed, in which case another filesystem might
> not be able to obtain a slot.

Yes, but this happening would mean we hit this race on one fs, error on
another fs, and ENOMEM with GFP_NOFS allocation to top it. Not very likely
IMO. Also in that case we will  queue overflow event in
fanotify_handle_event() so it will not be silent loss. The listening
application will learn that it missed some events.

> I'm also creating a poll of 32 entries initially to avoid spending too
> much memory.  This means that only 32 filesystems can be watched per
> group with the FAN_FS_ERROR mark, before fanotify_mark starts returning
> ENOMEM.

We can consider auto-grow as Amir suggests but I also think you somewhat
misunderstand how mempools work. If you call mempool_alloc(), it will first
try to allocate memory with kmalloc() (using GFP_NOFS mask which you pass
to it).  In 99.9% of cases this just succeeds. If kmalloc() fails, only
then mempool_alloc() will take one of the preallocated events and return
it. So even with mempool of size 32, we will not usually run out of events
when we have more than 32 filesystems. But it is true we cannot guarantee
reporting error to more than 32 filesystems under ENOMEM conditions. I'm
not sure if that matters...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-15  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-14 21:36 Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 01/28] fsnotify: pass data_type to fsnotify_name() Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  9:18   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 02/28] fsnotify: pass dentry instead of inode data Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15 13:39   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-18  9:11   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 03/28] fsnotify: clarify contract for create event hooks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  9:21   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 04/28] fsnotify: Don't insert unmergeable events in hashtable Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 05/28] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 06/28] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 07/28] inotify: Don't force FS_IN_IGNORED Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 08/28] fsnotify: Add helper to detect overflow_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 09/28] fsnotify: Add wrapper around fsnotify_add_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 10/28] fsnotify: Retrieve super block from the data field Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  5:39   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:26   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 11/28] fsnotify: Pass group argument to free_event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  5:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:26   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 12/28] fanotify: Support null inode event in fanotify_dfid_inode Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  5:49   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:30   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 13/28] fanotify: Allow file handle encoding for unhashed events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 14/28] fanotify: Encode empty file handle when no inode is provided Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  6:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:32   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 15/28] fanotify: Require fid_mode for any non-fd event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 16/28] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 17/28] fanotify: Reserve UAPI bits for FAN_FS_ERROR Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  9:37   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 18/28] fanotify: Pre-allocate pool of error events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  6:19   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  7:33     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:46   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 19/28] fanotify: Limit number of marks with FAN_FS_ERROR per group Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  6:15   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 16:53     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15 17:49       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 20/28] fanotify: Support enqueueing of error events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  7:04   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 16:50     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15 12:34   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 21/28] fanotify: Support merging " Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  7:09   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 16:54     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15 17:52       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-18 13:55         ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15 12:43   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 22/28] fanotify: Report FID entry even for zero-length file_handle Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  8:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 13:13     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 23/28] fanotify: Report fid info for file related file system errors Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  7:56   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 13:38     ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 24/28] fanotify: Emit generic error info for error event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  8:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 12:47   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 25/28] fanotify: Allow users to request FAN_FS_ERROR events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  8:27   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15 12:49   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 26/28] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:59   ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 27/28] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH v7 28/28] docs: Document the FAN_FS_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-10-15  8:38 ` [PATCH v7 00/28] file system-wide error monitoring Amir Goldstein
2021-10-15  9:16 ` Jan Kara [this message]

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